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Allow .LST and .LBL files to be saved and opened in UTF-8 even without BOM

I suggest to implement the following feature:

Allow .LST and .LBL files to be saved and opened in UTF-8 encoding.

A typical use case might be:

I know this is a tough one. Currently .LST files are UTF16 encoded. This makes perfect sense to support chinese, japanese and other language projects.

But in the year 2020 everyone uses UTF-8. With UTF-8 there is no endianess problem. The endian is always right. As a downside chinese and japanese language project files could get bigger, but it depends.

Direct manipulation of .LST and .LBL files will be easier because UTF-8 has the widest support nowadays.

It will also be the better encoding if combit, someday, will deliver LL for other platforms like Mac and Linux :slight_smile:

The main benefit will be: I could save my layouts without problems in Git to get version management. I then could diff them to get a feeling what has changed to prior versions. This is not perfect but sometimes really helpful to get a clue what’s different.
Just for reference which problems could evolve by using git with UTF-16 encoding: https://stackoverflow.com/a/52474068

If you implement this feature, please be aware of BOM and BOMless UTF-8 files. Other platforms prefer BOMless UTF8-files.

Actually, there’s already an option for this:

#define LL_OPTION_SAVE_PROJECT_IN_UTF8 (178) /* BOOL, default 0 (meaning: project is saved as UNICODE if A API is not used) */

Would that help :slight_smile:?

It helps a lot! Finally I can use git diff with default settings without tweaking git!

One thing I noticed:
SAVE_PROJECT_IN_UTF8 is missing in the .Net LlOption enumeration!
I got it working by using: ll.Core.LlSetOption(178, 1);

As BOMless UTF-8 files are prefered if using multiple platforms, please implement



We will add this to the enumeration with the next service pack for LL26. If we tackle the BOM less setting, it would probably be a value of “2” for the option. I’ll keep this thread updated.

A value of “2” will do the trick in LL27 then.

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